Kashmir
issue :- An interaction on facebook after terrorist Burhan Wani was killed.
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Tribhawan
Kaul
July
18 at 10:16pm ·
When
demand for freedom from parents gains currency on behest of non-friendly
neigbourer through misguided elements in the family itself, what the head of
the family is supposed to do. Think of a family where a son chooses a wrong
path because its neigbourer is hell bent to break the family with the help of
insiders. What should the head of family do. ? Watch helplessly the gagarin
spreading to all other members of his family or take steps to get it healed
surgically !
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Seharyar
Khan
Operation
red star needed
July
18 at 10:57pm
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Yes.
Operation red star this time. :)
July
19 at 11:15am
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Madan
Gandhi
great
July
19 at 12:01am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thanks
Sir. :)
July
19 at 11:16am
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Radhey
Shyam Varshney
.....steps to get it healed surgically...
Healed
not...Ampute it surgically, Ampute give a notification in paper severing all
rights in property, to arrange rental place even agreeing to pay rent for few
months, and feel relieved...
Seems
difficult because of parental bond..
No
dear Satan doesn't feel parental bond otherwise this painful situation may not
have raised.
A
person of Duryodhan Budhdhi.. to him even Shri Krishna could not persuade to
improve, those who defy own parents will
Never...never
understand the mental agony through which parents undergo.. Amputation is only
solution...or continue to be tortured.
This
I am saying after forty years of counseling in such matters. May God bless
For
right action
July
19 at 12:24am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
In
the present circumstances, amputation, yes will work yet surgeon always tries to
get gagarin treated through various other means. Duryodhans are ultimately to
be destroyed by any means. :)
July
19 at 11:20am
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Radhey
Shyam Varshney
Thanks
dear for observation... As I know there is no treatment for gangrene except to
Ampute that part and save the rest, in time before whole body becomes dead
alike. Rest God may bless in this situation for right course..
July
19 at 12:38pm
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thanks
for your straight forward views Radhey Shyam Varshney Ji :)
July
20 at 10:02am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thanks
friends. Treat this days as another Armed Forces Day. Jai Hindustan, Jai
Bharat, Jai Jawaan. :)
July
19 at 11:24am
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Hari
Lakhera
Amputation
is the last option. Sometimes the sick horse has to be killed so that the herd
may move on. In families
This
is possible if the sickness is physical but if it is mental counseling is the
only way out. For parents the agony is implied.
19
at 12:20pm
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thank
you Hari Ji for your views. :)
July
20 at 10:02am
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Shyam
Sundar Sharma
I
think surgery has to be performed using anesthesia of love and friendliness and
anti biotics of wisdom and common sense. Just surgery can lead to fatal
complications. ๐
July
19 at 2:49pm
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Deepti
Nischol Kaul
Don't
know the exact situation...but I m really amazed how beautifully you have put
it.....hats off you uncle...:-)
July
20 at 1:11am
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Shyam
Sundar Sharma
Thanks
for appreciation of my stray thought Deepti Nischol Kaul Ji ๐ Have nice
day !!
July
20 at 6:21am
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Deepti
Nischol Kaul
Have
a nice day....:-)
July
20 at 7:45am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thank
you Shyam Sundar Sharmar Ji. I honour your views. :)
July
20 at 10:04am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thank
you Deepti Nischol Kaul for being on this status of mine. It is so nice of you.
Do read my status in the context of Pakistan intervening in the internal
matters of India by observing 'black day' in support of terrorism in Kashmir.
:)
July
20 at 10:08am
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Deepti
Nischol Kaul
Thank
u Baijan....will surely do that...:-)
July
20 at 10:37am
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Vikrant
Pawar
Family
is irreplaceable. Shoot the neighbour first or have him shot. Distance from
family makes one conscious of the bond and builds the psychological strength
that is required to feel responsible towards the family.
July
20 at 12:57am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thank
you for you response. :)
July
20 at 10:09am
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Some
of us seek amputation and some think surgical healing with love and affection
is best to set the things right. If we seek amputation we risk third world war
and if we go on providing healing touch, India may bleed through its nose as it
has been doing since partition. Pandits have been hounded out and soon we may
find moderate muslims of J& State also hounded out from kashmir. Isn't
India is in catch 22 situation and India has always been so far as Kashmir
problem is concerned. Can I have your views on this too ;@ Hari Lakhera ji @
Radhey Shyam Varshney Ji @ Vikrant Pawar Ji ,@ Shyam Sundar Sharma Ji and dear
Deepti Nischol Kaul :)
July
20 at 10:21am
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This
is a dear friend’s (Hari Lakhera’s) status on his timeline
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Hari
Lakhera
July
19 at 4:55pm ·
A
STRAY THOUGHT ABOUT OUR FORCES
At
the risk of being called anti national for posting such thoughts on the eve of
our Independence Day, I am not in a position to resist it mainly because facebook is flooded with posts hailing our jawans. It seems as if the surge of love
for the jawans has suddenly erupted in view of their sacrifice in difficult
situations in controlling the unrest in the valley.
Their
primary job is to protect the borders by driving away the intruders from the
borders or from life itself. They are trained to do it. The alternative is to
get killed. Every person who joins the force is aware of the fact that his life
will be at risk. He joins it because either he wants to make a career in the
forces and earn a decent package in terms of monetary benefits. I am not sure
how many of them do it for the love of the country. Once they join the forces
they are trained to believe that they are performing their duty for the love of
the country. They are trained to hit back with full force without mercy or else
the enemy will kill them and the civilians they are supposed to protect.
It
was a simple option for the mercenaries during the 100 years of war in Europe.
They joined the forces for money and that was that.Some of them did not belong
to the country they were fighting for. Take the case of Gorkhas. They were in
British and later on in Indian army.
The
number of people lining up for recruitment in the army, police and other para
military forces and the stories of corruption prevailing in the recruitment
process further strengthens the point that it is an career option/family
tradition for some and a way of earning livelihood for others. It is their
training that makes them faithful to their job and country. Their rigorous
practice of this motto makes them disciplined soldiers.
It
is sad that our Jawans have to open fire on their own brothers and sisters
within the boundaries of the country. Here they are being asked to do exactly
the opposite. The civilians under any guise hit them with stones, guns and even
rocket launchers. They are told to keep cool and act with restraint. This is
not what the army jawans were trained for. It is easy to preach for restraint
but difficult to practice it in the face of provocation as our jawans and other
security forces are facing in various part of the country. They may be
misguided elements in the valley or deep forest of naxals hit areas or tribal
in the North east.
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Jitendra
Pande
Very
correct.
July
19 at 5:07pm
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Rohit
Lakhera
It
is easy to protest about the army at Jantar Mantar and talking about azadi but
difficult to understand that how much a jawan go through in his entire life
just to serve the nation and people who he never met or may not even remember him
after his death.
Like
· Reply · July 19 at 6:58pm
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Hari
Lakhera
That
is the reason it was suggested that civilian bosses in the defense ministry
should be visit the fronts and have a feel of the difficult situations our
Jawans live in.
July
20
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Tribhawan
Kaul
Thoughts
on the eve of Independence Day ???? Let me put things into correct perspective.
If love for jawans has all of sudden erupted, it is in response to Pakistan's
unethically observing a ' black day' today to promote terrorist ideology in our
own state J& K. . Secondly it is true that Jawans are to protect our
borders and fight our wars but we should not forget that during peace time they
are supposed to help other para military forces in various exigencies including
terrorist activities and we should not forget J & K is a border state which
Pakistan never wants to remain stable. Thirdly from the time immemorial, the
army is maintained to protect a country's sovereignty by employing able bodied
jawans just people are employed like in any other occupation . To say that
they join forces simply to earn and not have any idea of patriotic essence, is
to demean their intentions. There could not have been Param Veer Chakras and
other gallantry awards which are given for ultimate sacrifices unlike Padma
awards which are politically motivated. To compare mercenaries with jawaans in
forces is a very sad statement. Do you mean to suggest that all wars in India
fought since Ramanaya days were fought by mercenaries. I don't think so.
Fourthly tell me where has not corruption seeped into in the present day system
all over the world. Our armed forces are a part of our Govt. too and is not
immune to some malpractices. Lastly if the jawans respond to the cries of help
during droughts, floods and other natural calamities, these forces can be
called to control misguided elements too if the Govt. at the helm feels it so.
Armed forces never act on it own as India can never be Pakistan. Jai Bharat,
Jai Hindustan :)
July
19 at 7:23pm
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Ashutosh
Chakraverty
Tribhawan
Kaulji, you are right. Moreover, defense personnels' enduring profession cannot
be equated with other professions. Not all can embrace such extraordinarily
demanding career. Even if we think, which I don't, pay and perks are better.
July
19 at 8:02pm
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Hari
Lakhera
July
20 at 1:55pm
TK,One-
I specifically mentioned mercenaries in reference to 100 years war in Europe. I
would not dare to compare them with modern day armies be in India or elsewhere.
Two-Talking of awards, the little said the better particularly civilian and
sports awards. Three-There is no denying the fact that Jawans are more loyal
than the 'LOYAL'. at higher levels whose hands are smeared with illicit bribes
in defense deals. Career in forces is demanding and risky and the jawans know
it. What attracts them more-money or loyalty or both is a matter of debate only
upto a point. Once they join it is loyalty for the job which is much higher
from loyalty to the job in civil services and private sector. Forces are coming
out with huge ads imploring youths to join with implied inducements.Fourth-
army is called to help in natural calamities because they are better equipped
and trained and their commitment is high. Fifth-I still maintain that army
should be called out in law and order control only when police and paramilitary forces have failed and not as routine. Fifth- sudden surge in
remembering the jawans on occasion is nothing new, this time it may be the
unfortunate black day celebrated in Pakistan. Here again it the failure of the
successive Governments to improve relations with neighbors including Pakistan.
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Guru
Prasanna Mondal
July
20 at 5:40pm
It is very difficult to handle Kashmir issue
as army have to obey the guidance of our senior political people and their
political issues , if our army get free hand as per the situation things will
be easy to handle by army.
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